I had a heated conversation at GOSLING last evening about just how friendly to FLOSS or "good" that Google is compared to Apple. I have personally disliked Apple and their products since the 1980's when I was first introduced to the Lisa and Mac, with the closest I ever came to Apple was having an Apple II clone in the mid 1980's. This Apple II clone came with schematics in the manual, so a very different type of computer than the locked-down devices that people purchase from Apple today.